Curse

Turalisj · Oct 23, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20

Well, after 3+ months of not playing I finaly went back to playing GW. I went to pvx to look for builds, and I found something...disturbing. Out of 5 assassin builds, one of them are an actual, good old fashion dagger assassin build. The rest? Sincasters.

I have to ask, why? Have the nerfs become so bad that we no longer trust the old fashion AoD in, sinspike, and leave strategy?

zelgadissan · Oct 23, 2008, 03:24 PM // 15:24

Don't remember when they added aftercast to almost all shadowsteps, you might have left before then. Anyway, almost all shadowsteps have a .75 second aftercast now meaning they're almost entirely protable.

TBH the only three sin builds I see in RA are A/Mo knockdown spam, A/W Backbreaker, and then a DB/MS sin. Oh, and a straight healer once

kazi_saki · Oct 23, 2008, 03:52 PM // 15:52

damn though. I think I'm like the only shattersin in RA

Those assacasters piss the hell outta me.

I used to run the AoD builds, especially in those Priest arenas, but i got frustrated and stopped went up against so many of those blinders/blockathon guys. Its like a blindfest/blockfest in RA now. Thats why people play assacasters I guess--unblockable, unconditional damage w/out the hassle of blind/blocks.

Rothan Celt · Oct 23, 2008, 04:10 PM // 16:10

Kazi Sums up why i like to play A/Mo Only thing is its a sad ass build : / and i now have to play all RA matches with all chat off and on Do not disturb x)

wind fire and ice · Oct 23, 2008, 05:23 PM // 17:23

Assassin casters are only in RA/AB,and those dont really matter,sin casters arent that OP'd,just easy for idiots to pick up and use.

Arcane Spark · Oct 23, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21

^^ Wins the thread.

And they aren't THAT common now, a long time ago before the DP nerf they were alot more common.

Molock · Oct 23, 2008, 08:13 PM // 20:13

You will find them used more often because most of the other non-fail alternatives for PvP assassin have been nerfed by now. Izzy prefers assassins underpowered as oposed to overpowered.. and with assassins its one or the other.

Bobby2 · Oct 23, 2008, 10:45 PM // 22:45

Assacasters died with Paradox.

X Cytherea X · Oct 24, 2008, 11:56 AM // 11:56

sin casters are a disgrace

Grim Aragorn · Oct 24, 2008, 02:53 PM // 14:53

go go grenths grasp

kazi_saki · Oct 24, 2008, 04:05 PM // 16:05

how do sins use Grenth's Grasp?

Stealth Bomberman · Oct 24, 2008, 04:45 PM // 16:45

sincasters was a dumb idea from the start. sins with staffs casting high energy cost long recharge skills make it very easy to sqeeuze some simple heal/prot from any prof between cooldown, making sincasters useless imo.

Super Igor · Oct 25, 2008, 01:00 PM // 13:00

l2p Stealth, kthx. :>

Super Igor · Oct 25, 2008, 01:01 PM // 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazi_saki

how do sins use Grenth's Grasp?

*clicks Grenth's Grasp on skillbar* thats how.

Tyla · Oct 25, 2008, 01:03 PM // 13:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazi_saki

how do sins use Grenth's Grasp?

Grenths' Grasp
Whirling Charge
Golden Phoenix Strike
Trampling Ox
Falling Lotus Strike / Falling Spider
Twisting Fangs
X
X

Super Igor · Oct 25, 2008, 01:08 PM // 13:08

twsting fangs?! More like blades of steel tbh.

Tyla · Oct 25, 2008, 01:10 PM // 13:10

No deep wound on a melee is bad.

lord_shar · Oct 25, 2008, 10:38 PM // 22:38

Sin Casters were decent prior to the deadly paradox nerf. I had one power-block variant that basically interrupted the monk, then proceeded to own them with high damage and knockdowns. Another variant used Blinding Surge to deal with almost any melee.

I stopped using this arch-type once DP's casting cost and recharge rate was nerfed from 50% down to 33%.

Super Igor · Oct 25, 2008, 11:25 PM // 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyla

No deep wound on a melee is bad.

GG Sins are about 8 second cooldown spikes, besides Impale + BoS deals more damage, its proven.

Tyla · Oct 26, 2008, 12:06 AM // 00:06

More damage, more time needed. Then you need to trigger the deep wound and every now and then it doesn't happen. Not to mention it's an addon of interruption and makes your chain alot more suspectable to interrupts.